Letting the simulator die

[Princess Lae-rdal]

Does anyone have any links to published work on how far to take scenarios?

I know at the last ASPiH/SCSN symposium, one of the women talked about the ethics of letting the simulator die, and about debriefing and the trauma faced by students afterwards,  Can anyone remember her name - I'm sure she was Irish, and maybe something to do with midwifery.

Any other links would be appreciated.

[Manikin Skywalker]

first one i found on google, not research more discussion

www.nhslocal.nhs.uk/story/should-medical-students-see-dummy-patient-die

my take would be that scenarios are built around learning objectives so the purpose of the scenario would have to be death and dealing with the aftermath.

Just allowing the patient to die could be very traumatising for the learners and the debriefer, with perhaps the rest of the day needed to deal with it, and then all the other learning is lost.

[Manikin Skywalker]

heres a search that has a review paper from 2013, click on the pdf link at the side of the 3rd result "to die or not to die a review of simulated death"

scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?hl=en&q=simulator+death&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C5&as_sdtp=

[Princess Lae-rdal]

Cheers Scott.  I share the same view as you.  I just had to justify it in a project proposal.